Curse

zelgadissan · Apr 28, 2009, 12:47 AM // 00:47

I think the tomes and such might be a little high, but I think 1 silver for normal or 1 gold for elite might be too low, so I'm torn on those. Now the bigass equipment back, that bothers me. 5 gold Zcoins for 15 slots, but three times that for 20?

Great system, but the prices could use a look-see.

Copenhagen Master · Apr 28, 2009, 12:57 AM // 00:57

Well seems like it put the books back in business also just keep them all onhand and fill them out when doing the Zquests add an extra bonus when filled mainly just the gold unless you do the faction ones

AKB48 · Apr 28, 2009, 01:40 AM // 01:40

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Originally Posted by Mordiego

it's all about that 15 gold coin Backpack, innit? So let's just chill and wait till we accumulate 7500 copper coins to grab it. The rest of the rewards is merely a waste of coins.

They actually are a waste of coins......it really depends on how you look at it. Balthzar's flames aren't too bad a deal for 2 silver coins I guess.....but the rest, is just too much. You need 50,000 copper coins to get 100 gold coins. Assuming you do z quests everything and on average you get 400 copper per day. You need 125 days or roughly 18 weeks to get the 100 gold. But that's assuming you get ALL the rewards for quests, you do ALL of the z quests EVERYDAY.

GG.

The Little Viking · Apr 28, 2009, 03:39 AM // 03:39

I dont care how many coins it takes to get what. I like that you cant trade them with other players, but I DO want to be able to put them in storage. Thats it, just to put them in storage.

kazjun · Apr 28, 2009, 05:23 AM // 05:23

A good system, but poorly thought out numbers. Crossing practically the entire vanguard area to do a long slogging dungeon once for 105 coins? When you could just gank molotov over and over on all your characters for 70 coins? Or HA for like 350? At least keep a permanent HA quest up or something...

AKB48 · Apr 29, 2009, 11:08 PM // 23:08

Just doing it for fun now......going over to demigod after this month. =D

genofreek · Apr 30, 2009, 03:54 AM // 03:54

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Originally Posted by The Little Viking

I dont care how many coins it takes to get what. I like that you cant trade them with other players, but I DO want to be able to put them in storage. Thats it, just to put them in storage.

I'm with you on that, but I see why they want the coins to be limited to the character that earned them. I have 12 characters, and all of them could have done Consulate Docks today in HM to give me more than a stack of copper.

Anyway, we're veering off topic. I agree the coin -> prize ratio's a little unbalanced, but I guess they don't want the grind to be over too quickly. Once I get my heavy pack, I'm probably just going to use the signpost missions as excuses to finish my Guardian title and spend the coins on tonics or something.

glacialphoenix · Apr 30, 2009, 03:59 AM // 03:59

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Originally Posted by genofreek

I'm with you on that, but I see why they want the coins to be limited to the character that earned them. I have 12 characters, and all of them could have done Consulate Docks today in HM to give me more than a stack of copper.

By now, you can put them in storage. Have fun with your 12 characters.

genofreek · Apr 30, 2009, 04:04 AM // 04:04

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Originally Posted by glacialphoenix

By now, you can put them in storage. Have fun with your 12 characters.

Why would you tell me a thing like that. ;_;

k/d, even I'm not that sad. XD

Skye Marin · Apr 30, 2009, 06:53 AM // 06:53

I did some math!

If you get small packs using 5 Silver Coins, it saves you as much money as if you were to get any Elite Tome for 2 gold coins and sell it for 10k. Now, not many Elite tomes sell for 10k, may a Rit will, but maybe not. At that rate, taking into account cash spent on conversion, bronze coins are worth just under 10g each.

Now, if you make a Heavy Pack (20-slot) and sell that for 100k, bronze coins are worth 13g each, and that is taking into account the 2.35k you had to spend on conversion.

If you sell a Z-key for 3.75k, which is a reasonable price, then bronze coins are worth about 7g each. If you instead get 5 Flames of Bathazar and sell each for 750g, bronze coins are worth just under 7g each. Selling Lockpicks give 6g per bronze. Creme brulee and Firewaters give 5g each.

All other uses for Zaishen coins give less than 4g, with an average of 3g each. The worst way to spend coins would be Urgoz, Deep, and Elite scrolls, at 2g per bronze.

I personally hope that the reward amounts are increased a fair amount. Some balancing could happen with reward prizes, but they hit the mark pretty close, to be honest. Like it should be, the best way to make a profit is to sell to other players.

AKB48 · May 02, 2009, 05:27 PM // 17:27

Well.....3k easily earned per day..... probably good for the poorer players in GW? But that's about the only good thing I see in Z quests/and its rewards.

LONGA · May 02, 2009, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Consider some of those bounty need to go trough dungeons.When you fail halfway you restart in a very far starting point.They should brought the reward above those zaishen misson.

Tyla · May 02, 2009, 10:20 PM // 22:20

I don't think they need touching at all. The only thing that I think needs to be sorted is the trading of coins across your account, which I heard was a bug.

All it really is is incentive. People who actually play PvP like they did before Zaishen Keys and all that junk played PvP FOR the PvP and not for some pixelated reward, they played because they were playing with and against other players. These, although for the "wrong" reasons in what I think, bring people into the PvP side of the game anyway. People are playing, and that's really all that matters.

Complain if you want, but when it comes down to it, the rewards mean nothing, fair play and cooperative play is what means a lot.

faf · May 02, 2009, 10:46 PM // 22:46

You guys are evaluating the Zquest's the wrong way.

It's not about making a valuable way to farm. You don't seem to realise that you did most of the zaishen missions/quests/bounties atleast once when these didn't exist for an even lesser reward. It's simply an extra, just like the bonus weekends. Makes your reward for something you'd most likely do sometimes even bigger if you do it on the day it is available.

I personally love it. I have been away from GW for a while but now I just came back and I must tell it is much more enjoyable with the Z quests. It gives me something to do just for the fun of it with an extra reward, instead of doing something for a future goal like farming and shizzle.

Ghost Dog · May 02, 2009, 10:53 PM // 22:53

I do like the idea and have been replaying the missions, but yes some of the ratio's are off the wall like the zkeys and well they've all been mentioned enough.

It's too late but I would have really liked to see a special holiday event Zaishen Coin reward NPC with limited time items (maybe a few xtra z-coins from seasonal quests/games).

These z-coin rewards seem like something they could, and might build on.

rap13oy · May 03, 2009, 01:05 AM // 01:05

I just think there should be more ppl selling everlasting fireworks. cant get a hold of the damn thing.

Eragon Zarroc · May 03, 2009, 10:53 PM // 22:53

meh, most of the rewards aren't needed anyways, so im not worried about costs, lol